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Roadblock in Iraq

Just when it looked like things were improving in Iraq, a setback. On Friday, in the strongest language he has used on the subject, President al-Maliki said that negotiations with the United States to forge a new security agreement were at an impasse.

The security pact is required because the United Nations mandate authorizing American involvement in Iraq will lapse at the end of this year, and without an agreement with the Iraqi government, American forces have no authority to be in Iraq. The points of argument are formidable indeed, but one would hope that he principal points can be negotiated.

--Al-Maliki rejects the American desire to have a free hand in conducting military operations in Iraq without first asking the permission of the Iraqi government. This seems to make sense, of course, but it is most likely just a bargaining position, since it would be impossible to effect the level of coordination al-Maliki is requesting and still conduct the operations the Iraqi government itself wants from the U.S. There are certain areas the Iraqis wish were closed to American operations, those that harbor the militias that are arms of the multifarious religious factions, but the Iraqi government is likely to agree that only specific locations that are not significant to security will be off-limits.

--The Iraqis also insist that American forces cannot be permitted to arrest and hold Iraqis who are captured during operations, and one would expect that some compromise is possible here, too. I have spent plenty of time in combat and can report that, in the kind of environment that exists in Iraq, most of the people detained really are combatants. But not all of them are, and they need to be processed before it can be determined what intelligence value they have. The most likely compromise, and one which is already being used in many areas, is Iraqi assistance in the field to determine the threat detainees may pose.

--The third disagreement is the status of American forces generally. Al-Maliki says he wants Americans in Iraq to be subject to Iraqi law. One must merely recall the incidents in which Iraqi citizens have been killed, evidently without discrimination, by Americans working for contract security firms. This is, of course, reprehensible behavior. But contractors are not subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice and currently not subject to Iraqi law either, and this situation can not continue. The status of Americans in uniform, however, is different. In most other countries in which we have troops, we have executed a status of forces agreement that details the procedures for handling alleged crimes by American troops. As long as Central Command is vigorous about enforcing the UCMJ, the Iraqis are likely to agree that the current arrangement can continue.

But none of these fine points matter if, under pressure from the factions of which the Iraqi government is composed, the governmental coalition becomes intransigent and a complete agreement is not negotiated in the next few months. Although it is very unlikely, if there is a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq for any reason, it is liable to leave quite a mess behind.

But look on the bright side: we will then have enough troops to send to Afghanistan, which is the real front line of the war on terror.

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{"commentId":1963761,"authorDomain":"gabby3239"}

John McCain says Barack Obama needs to go to Iraq to see that we are succeeding , that we are winning well when the military is talking about the possibility of having to leave Iraq because they don't want us there. I can't see exactly what McCain is talking about except we are being threatened with the door and not of a time of our own choosing either if that's winning and succeeding I think we have a problem

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Reply#1 - Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
{"commentId":1969393,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

Even if the Iraqis let us stay on our own terms, even if we get everything that we want, we will still have a hard time in Iraq because we need more time than the electorate is interested in giving the adventure and more troops than we have available.

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#1.1 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
{"commentId":1990111,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}
...we will then have enough troops to send to Afghanistan, which is the real front line of the war on terror.

That was an especially pertinant statement. There are reports, though, that the Taliban didn't take over as much territory as was earlier reported.

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#1.2 - Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1965156,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

Colonel Jacobs:

Some on The Vine question the necessity of this possible accord specifically the need for fifty US bases in Iraq going forward. Although, the Iraqi Army (IA) is making great strides in the field as witnessed in Sadr City, Basra and Mosul---the IA's logistics and heavy weapons (ground and air) support are still at little more than the startup stage and as such are dependent upon the US Army, Air Force and Marines.

First, is it essential to maintain fifty US bases in Iraq? If so, is this need based in no small part upon the IA's critical lack of organic logistics and on call fire power?

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Reply#2 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:30 AM EDT
{"commentId":1969439,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

I believe both of your points are good ones. Our logistical operation in Iraq is positively enormous, and the less time troops spend in the field, the greater the logistical requirements become. Any tactician will want his troops dispersed as much as possible until they are required en masse to attack, and so fifty may very well be the right number. But supporting these disparate locations is a tough mission. And the IA's weaknesses are well known, and among its direst shortcoming is its inability to provide its own logistical support. We are trying to conduct two large missions at once: secure and hold areas, and train the Iraqis. Hard to do with any alacrity when we are so under-resourced.

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#2.1 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1967308,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

Col. Jack:

Since the Administration's aims have always been paradoxical and contradictory (for the moment dispensing with the notion that they were deceptive or dishonest), it has been clear since early Autumn 2003 that some wrenching resolution like this was inevitable.

Basically, since then, all Bush has wanted to do was ensure that the next President took the blame. The purpose of the Surge wasn't to "win" (although it's sure helping the Iraninans win), it was to protect Bush's legacy by kicking the can down the road. The essential byproduct was also to establish the Stab in the Back! myth, which the righty types will be using for the next thirty years.

Thus: The failure of a security pact serves American interests because it forces the blame onto the actual perpetrators of the Iraq Monstrosity.

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Reply#3 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:22 PM EDT
{"commentId":1967458,"authorDomain":"cletuswilbury"}

Great article, Jack.

The history stuff is great. It's an old story, probably as old as the hills. The Trojan Horse story is similar, in the symbolic sense.

Interesting, at the end the author develops a Siegfried theory himself. (Bush as the right-wing Siegfried)

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#3.1 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":1969330,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

Jack, while it is true the UN Mandate for MNF-Iraq is finite, what is not clear at this point is the final resolution of the bilateral accord between Iraq and the US. For the Iraqis, any agreement on the status of US Forces in Iraq must be seen as a win for the Maliki Government and the sovereignty of Iraq, hence public the back and forth on the original negotiation points. The bottom line for Maliki is he can't be seen a kow-towing to the US, but at the same time he knows the shape of the battle field will tilt to al-Qaida, al-Sadr and Iran without US forces.

This deal will be done, and Maliki will look good doing it.

Basically, since then, all Bush has wanted to do was ensure that the next President took the blame.

The choice in late 2006 was "cut and run" or "go all in" (the Surge) with revised strategy and tactics including new Rules of Engagement (ROI) for US forces. I do see where you're coming from here, Jack, if Obama gains the Oval, he will wear the blame for collapsing a winning military and political strategy by pulling the US out of Iraq.

The purpose of the Surge wasn't to "win" (although it's sure helping the Iraninans win)...

The purpose of the Surge was to shape the battlefield thus creating the conditions for local, provincial and national political consolidation by the Iraqi Government--Shia, Kurd and Sunni. While it is true that no military strategy alone "wins" a counter- insurgency war, only a judicious mix of combat and intelligence arts--to up root the enemy--along with a follow on strategy of civil, economic and political support and reconciliation--to build trust in the civilian government--"wins" the day.

The Surge as a military/political strategy is a winner by any standard applied. The shaping of the battlefield began by running al-Qaida to ground. With the deprivation and mutilation of al-Qaida's striking power, the US and the Iraqi Government were free to move on Iran backed al-Sadr's JAM strongholds of Basra and Sadr City.

The Iraqi Army (IA), a force al-Sadr and his JAM are loath to attack for political reasons, now occupies most of Basra and about half of Sadr City. From Basra and Sadr City, there are reports aplenty of Shia citizens glad to be rid of al-Sadr and his JAM and hoping for better days under the Iraqi Government. An example of this seismic shift is 3,000 volunteers responding to an IA recruiting drive. Iran winning? Please!

Now why only occupy half of Sadr City? Simple, the strategy as old as time--those under JAM in North Sadr City can see how the other half lives without JAM, Iran and al-Sadr.

... it was to protect Bush's legacy by kicking the can down the road.

Bush's legacy??? What if the Surge did not work, Jack? You seem to forget the Surge was a make or break in Iraq, and Mr. Bush rolled the bones of victory or defeat on his desk in the Oval. If the Surge failed there would be no "can" to kick down the road.

The essential byproduct was also to establish the Stab in the Back! myth, which the righty types will be using for the next thirty years.

Democrats like Harry Reid, Dick Durban, Nancy Pelosi et al. along with the MSM have already done plenty by personal statements and policy moves to stab our troops in the field in the back. A President Obama will run to join them.

Thus: The failure of a security pact serves American interests because it forces the blame onto the actual perpetrators of the Iraq Monstrosity.

This "pact" is negotiated in public, not private, as befits two democracies searching for an agreement on such a weighty issue, and the give and take is no where near complete. The final deal, and there will be a completed negotiation, will cement Maliki as the leader of all Iraqis.

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#3.2 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":1969485,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

I agree, but the two objectives are not mutually exclusive. The administration was genuinely of the belief that the change in strategy to fighting a proper unconventional war would ultimately be successful, and there have been enormous strides made. We have started taking more KIA in Afghanistan than in Iraq. But the Defense Department finally recognized that even huge success was going to come too late to deliver anything like victory before Bush left office. Whether it's McCain or Obama, he's inheriting a difficult problem that most American say they want solved very soon.

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#3.3 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":1969519,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

chancey:

... what is not clear at this point is the final resolution of the bilateral accord between Iraq and the US.

Who cares? In the unlikely event that the bilateral accord is signed at the executive level, since both the Iraqi Parliament AND the U.S. Congress opposes it, it won't survive. And since it won't have the force of law, the next president will just un-stroke Bush's pen.

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#3.4 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
{"commentId":1969546,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

Col. Jack:

Whether it's McCain or Obama, he's inheriting a difficult problem that most American say they want solved very soon.

I would say "insoluable" rather than "difficult," since the country most likely to benefit from "success" is Iran, not the USA.

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#3.5 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":1969883,"authorDomain":"cletuswilbury"}

Col. Jack - "The administration was genuinely of the belief that the change in strategy to fighting a proper unconventional war would ultimately be successful"

Thanks for your comments, informative.
Care to offer an opinion on this:
Why did they take so long to recognize an insurgency, and switch to the appropriate strategy?

(pick your own 'they')

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#3.6 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
{"commentId":1990418,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}
Democrats like Harry Reid, Dick Durban, Nancy Pelosi et al. along with the MSM have already done plenty by personal statements and policy moves to stab our troops in the field in the back. A President Obama will run to join them.

The o'le liberals want to stab our troops in the back narrative, scooped from deep in the muck.

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    #3.7 - Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1967540,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

    The Washington Post has ran a similar piece.

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      Reply#4 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1969517,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

      I see Paley and deYoug report today on the impasse.

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      #4.1 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1969579,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

      Impasse?

      How could any country willfully agree to an American occupation?

      After all, the Iraqis didn't agree because it meant a longer term, less than subliminal occupation of their country. This is another power play by America. They want to have strategic control over Iraqi oil. Do you disagree?

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      #4.2 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":1970123,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

      Jack @ 3.4

      The new emerging political dynamic vis-a-vis Iraq is consensus among our allies and among Iraq's Arab neighbors minus Syria. Just this week, Chancellor Merkel characterized Iraq as a non-issue between Germany and the US. A recent visit to Iraq by the French foreign minister yielded a consulate in Irbil. Now, Jordan and Bahrain are committed to Embassies in the Green Zone with ambassadors.

      The upshot is more and more nations are banking on stability in Iraq going forward. As long as Iran is the de facto threat in Iraq, Sunni Arab nations have every reason to lobby the next president not to pull the military out in a manner that exacerbates and expands instability.

      Iraq is no longer a "heat sink" of political animosity at the governmental level directed at the US. Iraq is on the way to becoming the fulcrum for freedom and opportunity against the backdrop of Iran in much the same way West Berlin outpaced East Berlin.

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      Reply#5 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1970304,"authorDomain":"martinez"}

      Great, another "Cold War"...

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        #5.1 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:04 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1970561,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

        chancey:

        Iran isn't the de facto threat, Iran is the likely beneficiary of stability.

        Glory be, chancey--if you were Maliki, who would you rather cut a deal with? A lamest-duck Bush with a few months of control left or the Ayatollahs next door?

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        #5.2 - Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":1970776,"authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}

        Compliments to Col Jack Jacobs on an article of nuanced substance. I get a little tired of the street-level politics that tend to dominate this place. More articles like this can help elevate the thinking, something most of us can use.

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        Reply#6 - Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:38 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1971928,"authorDomain":"cletuswilbury"}

        'nuanced'

        I wonder if this is true: Language: The to-do over 'do' and the do-rag By William Safire

        "Soon after George W. Bush became president, Candy Crowley of CNN recalled having asked him, years before, about "the nuance of your answer." She recollected in 2001, "He looked at me and he said, 'In Texas, we don't do nuance."'"

        Why the "War President" Is Under Fire

        President Bush once famously told Senator Joe Biden, "I don't do nuance."

        (according to Biden)

        I sure seem to remember many writing praise for the idea that nuance isn't 'manly', or some such drivel.

        Since then, I've had a greater appreciation for the term.

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        #6.1 - Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:53 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2002341,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

        Thanks for the kind words. Full disclosure: both my thought processes and written work were forged in the crucible of unforgiving New York city public school teachers fifty years ago.

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        #6.2 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1990395,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}
        Al-Maliki rejects the American desire to have a free hand in conducting military operations in Iraq without first asking the permission of the Iraqi government. This seems to make sense, of course, but it is most likely just a bargaining position, since it would be impossible to effect the level of coordination al-Maliki is requesting and still conduct the operations the Iraqi government itself wants from the U.S.

        Thank you for this thoughtful article. This is a conundrum - particularly with Blackwater, there has to be some legal process where employees who commit crimes receive appropriate punishment. But can we really trust the Iraqi legal process to enact such a process? Whatever the solution, the dilemma illustrates the inherent problems in running an occupation of a foreign country.

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          Reply#7 - Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
          {"commentId":1992916,"authorDomain":"EPH289"}

          From the LAW OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE STATE OF IRAQ

          Islam is the official religion of the State and is to be considered a source of legislation. No law that contradicts the universally agreed tenets of Islam, the principles of democracy, or the rights cited in Chapter Two of this Law may be enacted during the transitional period.

          in conjunction with this:

          Al-Maliki says he wants Americans in Iraq to be subject to Iraqi law

          Has the potential to be problematic.

          Although I agree that we should be subject to the laws of the land in which we find ourselves, the possibility exists for issues to come up that are inconsistent with the proper functioning of our forces.

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          Reply#8 - Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:45 AM EDT
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