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Lebanon Redux?

Last year ended with a bang, not a whimper, as air attacks began on Hamas positions from which rockets had been launched into Israel and, as the intelligence was developed, on other Hamas installations and houses.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has announced a commitment to find yet another negotiated end to the cross-border violence, but the intractability of the problem is best exemplified by the lack of unity at the Arab summit, where it is clear that no help will come from those best able to assist. Meanwhile, an air strike on New Year's Day killed Nizar Rayyan, a leading Hamas official and the architect of numerous suicide bombings that have killed a large number of Israelis, both Muslim and Jewish, and foreign visitors. And although Israel has been using precision-guided munitions, civilian casualties are inevitable in a place that is the sixth most densely populated metropolitan area in the world.

The bifurcated rule of Palestinians was the result of Palestinian decisions, not imposed from outside, and it has had the predicted effect of serving the Palestinian people very poorly. Gazans, under the unenlightened, single-minded and inept suzerainty of Hamas, is a mess. Their rotten governance is exacerbated by the impossible demographics---imagine the population of Houston squeezed into an area about one-fourth as large---and the limited movement outside the borders of the strip. Frankly, one can hardly blame either Israel or Egypt for keeping the flow of Gazans in check, since both have suffered nothing but grief when Hamas has had freedom of movement.

Well, what next?

At the beginning of the retaliatory attacks, Israel stated that its objective was the destruction of Hamas, and most actors, including Arab nations, would agree that a world without Hamas would be a safer and more pleasant place.

But remember the last time Israel tried to eliminate an imminent threat on its border? That was the 2006 invasion of Lebanon, designed to get Hezbollah off Israel's back, and it was a debacle, poorly planned and raggedly executed, and it accomplished little more than generating international opprobrium.

The premier principle of war is that of the objective. Any human endeavor, particularly the employment of national power, begins with an articulation of what the objective is, and this must be done with laser-like precision. From a professional military standpoint, it is difficult to envision how the Israelis would accomplish the mission of destroying Hamas---and without ugly collateral damage, lots of casualties on both sides and a long-term occupation of Gaza. Clearing and holding urban areas are among the most difficult of all military missions, and Israeli forces would be left with a situation like that facing the Americans in Iraq but with far less likelihood of a satisfactory result.

So, no matter what the Israelis want, the near-term objective can't be the destruction of Hamas because nobody has the stomach for what the campaign would entail. Instead, Israel is more likely focused on the pragmatic tasks of eliminating some key Hamas leaders, reducing the organization's command and control capabilities, and buying a bit of time during which both western and Arab leaders can be convinced to take responsibility for keeping Hamas in check.

Regrettably, and to the civilized world's great shame, history has demonstrated that the latter has almost no chance of occurring.

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Good article. I thought the unilateral Israeli pull-out from Gaza was a mistake because of what I thought was the wrong signal it sent to the region about perception and power. I understand the demographics and the dilemma it poses to a pure democracy in which there is a grave inbalance between the Jewish and Arab populations when Gaza is factored into Israeli politics as an occupied territory.

Further issues relate to the timing of this offensive in relation to the exchange of power in Washington. I want to sit back for a while and wait for a response from Hillary Clinton before commenting much further myself. This is a test situation for her.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jan 1, 2009 5:29 PM EST
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The Israelis are now arrayed in strength along what passes for a border with Gaza, and it certainly resembles forces preparing for an assault. But to assault what? It is hard to see much of a military incursion other than limited-objective attacks, because the forces required to hold Gaza are far larger than those to take it in the first place. We'll see.

As for Hillary Clinton, one might expect her to try her hand at forging an international consortium to do what Israel would like to see, to control Hamas, but that would have to include Arab states as well as Europeans, and it may be too early for her to flex muscle effectively. We'll see on this one, too.

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#2.1 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:03 PM EST
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I think you are correct that it would be a bit after the fact before we are able to get an official position from our future secretary of state, given that the change of power in Washington does not occur for nearly three more weeks and then there are confirmation proceedings. People do have a tendency, though, to put forward hints through the media; unofficially, of course.

I think at this point it is inevitable that we sit back, watch as Israel does as it wills, and then consider options after the fact.

BTW, I think your article is good and the absence of comments stem from this being a vacation period, which should change after Sunday.

Also, I am getting a lot of inquiries related to the principles of a NEW global economic order. People seem to be more interested in this than ANYTHING else.

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#2.2 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 7:38 PM EST
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Economic problems are foremost on everyone's mind. There seem to be two problems, closely related, that weigh heavily on potential recover. One is the huge volatility of markets, and the other is the enormous lack of confidence among institutional investors. My instinct says that the former won't improve until the latter does, and we should not be sanguine about the prospects for a quick recovery. Still, this nonsense can't last forever, and those investors who exited quickly from the markets and now have a lot of cash will reap large rewards when undervalued assets can be acquired.

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    #2.3 - Sat Jan 3, 2009 9:57 AM EST
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    {"commentId":4639935,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

    Israel is more likely focused on the pragmatic tasks of eliminating some key Hamas leaders, reducing the organization's command and control capabilities,

    It would certainly make the most sense for Israel to pursue those goals. It would be impossible to rout every Hamas member without some serious collateral damage. What I hope will happen is that, as Hamas' leadership structure crumbles, a truly democratic leader who can earn the respect of the Palestinian people will emerge. It's painfully obvious that we can't just turn back the clock to 1948 and wish all of this away. There needs to be leadership in Palestine *and* Israel that recognizes there is no way to go back to the way things were before Israel was founded. The only thing left to do is move forward, in a democratic fashion.

    It sounds korny, but democracy is the only way.

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    Reply#3 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 7:49 PM EST
    {"commentId":4640299,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

    Two territorially separated Palestinian land masses, the West Bank and Gaza, just doesn't make sense to me. Where is a future in Gaza? The demographic realities will bread nothing but trouble there? Where in Gaza are the elements of nation-building, including economic opportunity?

    I favor a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, but I do not favor a Palestinian state as one of the two states. Palestinians should be encouraged to settle throughout the region, compensated, and afforded the chance to assimilate on an equal basis with the indigenous populations.

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    #3.1 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:17 PM EST
    {"commentId":4645254,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

    At the moment, international leadership is required, and the United States has an opportunity to exert it.

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      #3.2 - Sat Jan 3, 2009 9:53 AM EST
      {"commentId":4649357,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

      QUESTION: What support is there in international law for the forcible evacuation of all residents of the Gaza Strip to an area away from Israel, possibly east of the Jordan River and the West Bank?

      My assumption is that it is not legal to move civilians, but is this true under all circumstances?

      The best-case scenario for the long-term would be for Israel to incorporate (not occupy) the Gaza Strip into the territory of Israel, by right of conquest, and settle it with Jews and ONLY Jews. As odd as it sounds, this would be in the best humanitarian interest of the Palestinians also.

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      #3.3 - Sat Jan 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST
      {"commentId":4656626,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

      All people have an inherent right to live in their homelands---and in peace. Forcibly removing Palestinians would accomplish nothing positive. The real solution is to trump ages of hatred, distrust, violence and discrimination by employing enlightened leadersjhip and international cooperation. But don't hold your breath.

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      #3.4 - Sun Jan 4, 2009 8:18 AM EST
      {"commentId":4661699,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

      Hard decisions take leadership.

      MORAL AMBIGUITY

      Sometimes the way does not seem so clear when there are conflicting moralities. But a true leader will not balk at weighing the options and making a choice. Though the choice necessitate harm to some, a moral leader must act in the interest of the many.

      Sometimes laws impede progress. By entrenching competing interests in positions that are mutually damaging, unjust laws enable a maddened protraction of inevitable conflict.

      A time of crisis is not the occasion to resolve the legal ambiguity. The ordinary routes of the legislature and the courts are typically too slow to address immanent needs.

      When a leader makes an unpopular choice, in Washington you call that expending political capital. I think that the Texan Bushs would call it a wager. I believe that history will prove that President George W. Bush made the right wager in Iraq and I plan to do everything in my power to prove it practically true.

      RATIONALE FOR CHANGE

      1. Gaza Palestinians are living below the poverty line without hope and in despair. The demographics of Gaza do not support a positive future for Palestinians there.

      2. The Gaza Strip borders Egypt, a country already at peace with Israel. Egypt should neither have to endure instability along its border, nor the constant threat of incitement by Islamic radicals as well as arms smuggling.

      3. The Palestinian territories are essentially a divided land with arguably separate governments. There is no single voice speaking on behalf of Palestinian interests. There is a need for contiguity in the population.

      4. Re-occupation is not advisable. As you have stated, "All people have an inherent right to live in their homelands", where they have the right to self-determination. I agree, but I do not think the place for this is Gaza.

      5. Any thinking person knows that the Israeli claim for invading Gaza to "stop the rockets" is a justified pretext for removing Hamas. Hamas has publicized its hostility toward Israel. The unilateral Israeli pull-out from Gaza was a mistake because it sent the wrong signal to the region about perception and power. It was a mere matter of time before Hamas was emboldened by the perception of their success and Israeli weakness and used Gaza as a beachhead for aggression.

      In the absence of Hamas, the Palestinians will be left without a government and without a voice.

      6. Gaza will continue to pose a threat to southern Israel for as long as a significant Palestinian population resides there.

      7. Gaza is an impediment to the development of democracy in the region.

      8. Because of numbers #6 and 7, I do not support the goal of Palestinian statehood as part of a comprehensive solution in which Israel and Palestine coexist side by side. This version of the two-state solution will not resolve the emotions rooted in "hatred, distrust, violence and discrimination". There needs to be a resolution that is deeper and cathartic.

      The nation-state of Palestine would become the launch-pad for the next phase in the ongoing antipathy.

      I advocate another version of a two-state solution.

      PALESTINIAN STATEHOOD

      Unless I am mistaken, the notion of a Palestinian right to self-determination is tempered by the facts of modern history. Following Ottoman rule and British occupation, Palestine was partitioned by the United Nations. However, instead of recognizing international law, Palestinians declared war on the Jews and lost.

      Palestinians do not possess the elements necessary for nation-building, such as a unique language, racial heritage, or prior history of independence.

      The Arab affinities possessed by Palestinian, including race and religion, lend to their patriation in Arab territories, where they ought to be afforded opportunities to assimilate and prosper in accordance with Islamic tradition. Perhaps large tracts of land can be developed and settled by them in Iraq at some point in the future.

      FINAL SOLUTION

      You stated, "The real solution is to trump ages of hatred, distrust, violence and discrimination by employing ENLIGHTENED leadership and international cooperation" (emphasis mine). Only one can achieve the former; the latter is inevitable, one way or another. Circumstances may dictate necessity.

      Just yesterday I discovered "Christianity and Anti-Christianity in Their Final Conflict" (1898) by Samuel James Andrews. On pages 271 and 272, he writes, "The kingdom best entitled in the past to the name of universal was the Roman; the bond of its unity was law enforced by arms. But this unity was only external, political, and therefore imperfect. It was rather a conglomeration of nations than a homogeneous empire. To effect this there must be other bonds; not only those affecting material interests, but those affecting the religious faith and inner life of the people. If these be wanting, all that is possible is a federation of States; and even such a federation is possible only when there has been developed a strong feeling of universalism. This was made apparent in the days of the first Napoleon, who saw clearly that the interests of the several European States would be best promoted by the establishment of some central authority; yet preserving the individuality, and to a great degree the autonomy, of each. At the head of this union of the nations he would have placed France, and himself at the head of France. But the time was ndt then ripe for such a federation. The elements of repulsion were too strong, and a unity made by mere physical force was out of the question."

      Hence, empires of the past have succumbed to the one needful thing. They collapsed for lack of a bonding agent; the spiritual glue that alone could bind them together.

      The bonding agent; the key that could ungird peace in the Middle East is its age-old philosophy of SOLIDARITY. It is both simple and profound. At its simplest, it is the concept of corporate identity. It contrasts with the competing philosophy of Greek-centric Western Individualism.

      When interpreted through the prism of Solidarity, the Tanakh (Old Testament), New Testament, and the Koran demonstrate a harmony. The Middle East does not need an altogether new religion. What it needs is a return to the cultural underpinning at its roots and guidance on how to harmonize Judaism, Christianity, and Islam so the three can coexist in peace.

      The one who would rule must have equal flexibility among the monotheistic faiths; at once, he (or she) must be the Messiah to the Jews, the Mahdi to the Muslims, and the Vicegerent of Christ to the Christians. Like the Apostle Paul, he must be "all things to all [men], that [he] might by all means save some" (1 Corinthians 9:22).

      Such an one would have to establish a formidable authority by establishing beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the object of not just one, but three, prophetic faith traditions.

      HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY

      As stated, the unilateral Israeli pull-out from Gaza was a mistake because it sent the wrong signal to the region about perception and power. The Gaza offensive is an historic opportunity for Israel. Israel will regain face only by exercising muscle.

      Lasting change is preferable to the policies and practices of the near past.

      CONCLUSION

      It is apparent that I am as interested in the long-term welfare of the Palestinians as in that of the Jews.

      When all is said and done, I think it is inevitable that the map of the Middle East will be redrawn. Who will possess the hand that draws the map?

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      #3.5 - Sun Jan 4, 2009 5:10 PM EST
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      {"commentId":4649521,"authorDomain":"singleinnova"}

      Col. Jacobs,

      Granted your "expert" community is colored by the fact that you are of Jewish descent. Are you the right person to comment on Israeli-Palestianian current conflict ? Would you not fight if you are occupied and can't live in freedom ? Why is peace/freedom needed for us (americans) and Israelies and not desired for the palestinian/arab people ? So, you think it is fair/ok for Israel (indirectly Bush) to kill 400+ palestianians (using F16s that US arms Israel with) in response to kids throwing stones and/or hamas firing "home made rockets" at empty land in israel ? I wonder how your conscience lets you come on MSNBC to give your "expert" commentary when you have a vested goal in this fight ? I heard some of your "expert" comments and was appalled how you can come on TV and lie through your teeth TV. Shame on you. You have lost my respect.  I salute you for the service to the nation but I wish you had declined to come on TV to provide neutral "expert" commentary on a conflict that you have a vested interest in.

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        Reply#4 - Sat Jan 3, 2009 4:31 PM EST
        {"commentId":4653541,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

        Oh good grief.

        Shall we all start making stupid assumptions about you because your handle is an Arabic name? Of course not.

        Don't be ridiculous, Abdul-Majeed. Newsvine deserves better.

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        #4.1 - Sat Jan 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST
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        {"commentId":4750829,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

        Were I a magic dictator with unopposable powers, I would take all the Palestinians in Gaza, Lebanon, and the West Bank and move them to Taiwan. I would take a comparable number of Taiwanese and move them into the places vacated by the Palestinians in and around Israel. Then, when China takes over Taiwan, I would let the Chinese deal with the Palestinians.

        My solution for the Republic of Georgia on Russia's southern border is similar. All Georgians go to Chicago.  All Chicagoans go to the Caucus, including their sports franchises. The Georgians would kind of get the shaft as far as climate, but exposure to the natural world would be really good for Chicagoans, as well as the idea of them having a Northern neighbor other than Canada would help them with their real-politik mental development.

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