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1962 Redux

One evening in my freshman year in college, we all gathered around the sole television in our dorm to watch President Kennedy alert the nation that we were on the verge of war with the USSR. He announced that the Soviets had emplaced intercontinental ballistic missiles in Cuba, that this was an imminent threat to our security, that they would have to be removed immediately, and that a naval blockade was already in place to prevent any further shipments to Cuba.

Although he was partly bluffing about the blockade---he had ordered it, but it was far from being in place---he was deadly serious about the potential for war. Sensing that the Soviet Union had a nuclear delivery capability inferior to that of the United States, Premier Kruschchev had decided that putting missiles only 90 miles from the U.S. would be cheaper and quicker than developing more capable long-range missiles. He was right about that calculus, but he underestimated Kennedy's resolve to react decisively.

At the time, the full import of the situation was lost on us. If the Soviets refused to remove the missiles, we understood that we would launch tactical strikes to destroy the sites in Cuba, but the probability that there might be a nuclear exchange that would kill millions of Americans was not prominent in our minds.

This week has delivered us a disquieting feeling of deja vu: a Russian general reportedly said that Venezuela's Hugo Chavez is offering facilities on which to base Russian bombers, and Russia is perhaps also mulling over the idea of basing strategic aircraft in Cuba.

Chavez, now constitutionally Venezuela's chief executive until he tires of it, never loses an opportunity to thumb his nose at the United States. He is doing an excellent job of running his country into the ground---and in this he is not much different from leaders everywhere, both demagogues and those who have been democratically elected---and he is a dangerous character, but the typical currency he uses is bluster. Still, his offer, if it has been reported correctly, is likely to be genuine.

And what of Russia? Its leadership is paranoid, but we have been successful in making it edgier still. In Putin's mind, the enemy has always been NATO, much like ours was always the Warsaw Pact. When the Berlin Wall fell, we took the opportunity to recruit into NATO the majority of Russia's erstwhile allies, increased dramatically our presence on Russia's doorstep, and announced that we were emplacing a missile shield in eastern Europe. Our contention that the anti-ballistic capability was for Russia's protection, too, did nothing to decrease Putin's trepidation. Whatever else one can say about the former Soviet Union, it is unlikely that any other country, including us, would have viewed those developments any more benignly than Russia did.

Russian strategic bombers in Venezuela or even Cuba are not the same threat as nuclear weapons based there, and so it is not 1962 again. Strategic aircraft can be based in Russia and not be much more of a threat than they are in the Western Hemisphere, and one should properly view the situation as Russian grandstanding wrought from frustration and Chavez being Chavez. But we don't want these planes based there, and we must insure that they stay where they are. With relations at something of a low ebb, there will be a tendency for politicians to do what they do most frequently, and what they have been trained to do: make ill-informed public statements. But the United States and Russia have numerous interests in common, including mutual security, and the greatest success will come from public silence and private discussions.

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I was an impressionable high school student in October, 1962. Our math teacher rushed into fourth period algebra class nearly incoherent and in tears. He announced that a substitute teacher would be coming momentarily because the Montana National Guard had just been mobilized, the nation was at something called DEFCON2, and he had to report immediately to his company of M-60 tanks, based at Helena.

A little over a year later this same teacher, taking our lunch tickets in the school cafeteria, was in the same mess of a psychological condition when he somberly told each of us students passing by that President Kennedy was dead. Lee Harvey Oswald, it pays to keep in mind, had lived for several years in the Soviet Union and after returning to the U.S. with his Russian bride had apparently visited the Soviet embassy in Mexico City only months after he (Oswald) took the job in the Texas School Book Depository. The afternoon of the assassination I climbed a very tall ladder to cover the bottom third of the American flag fixed flat to the wall of our school basketball gymnasium with black bunting, while the elderly janitor held the ladder steady. That was an obscure bit of flag protocol I had never seen before or have since.

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Reply#1 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:21 AM EDT
{"commentId":5933757,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

I forgot to get to my main point--the Obama administration dispatching national guard units to the Mexican border!

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    Reply#2 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:32 AM EDT
    {"commentId":5961467,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

    The border is a poorly understood problem. People cross the border because they can, but militarizing the border with Mexico will not accomplish what we want. The principal motivation at the moment is to keep drug violence inside Chihuahua, but an intense firefight in Texas between National Guard units and drogistas is not going to be pretty, nor will it solve the problem.

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      #2.1 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:02 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":5935394,"authorDomain":"rahall"}

      enjoyed

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        Reply#3 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:27 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5935855,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

        You write, "[T]he United States and Russia have numerous interests in common, including mutual security, . . ."

        Security against what mutual threat?

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        Reply#4 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5942530,"authorDomain":"diverdown"}

        Peace through superior firepower.

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        #4.1 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:26 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5950210,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

        Peace is the goal. No one disagrees about that. The question debated is the method for achieving the goal, soft non-military power or military power. I favor both, but I think the latter is especially important in maintaining the peace after the fact. Peace will be achieved one way or another because the alternative in the present global community is perpetual, escalating conflict.

        I would build up rather than weaken the military.

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        #4.2 - Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:20 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5961583,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

        Sometimes politicians say things that actually are true, and asserting mutual security interests is one of them. First, both countries would benefit in many political ways from reduced tension between them, including permitting the apparatus to focus on things that are more productive. Second, the potential for disaster in southwest Asia is a threat to world stability and to the security of everyone. Third, we, the Russians, Japan, and China have been working together to reduce the threat of North Korea; what progress that has been made would have been impossible without recognizing that a threat to one is dangerous to all. Finally, the cost of national security is high and always rises commensurately with tensions. In this weak sconomic climate, any improvement will be beneficial.

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        #4.3 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:11 AM EDT
        {"commentId":5977432,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}
        Second, the potential for disaster in southwest Asia is a threat to world stability and to the security of everyone.

        Do you mind elaborating? You mean Pakistani-Indian relations?

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        #4.4 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:18 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":5936387,"authorDomain":"happilyretired"}

        Aaah, 1962... the world hadn't heard of Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods and Nike had a whole different meaning. Seeing one go airborne, in October of 1962 would not have made for a wonderful picture on a magazine cover, either. imo

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        Reply#5 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:32 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5939225,"authorDomain":"beausophie"}

        This is true. My husband went overseas...airborne in the USAF to defend this country against communism. Few people remember those days. He was on 24-hour alert guarding the AFB in Soesterberg from the Communists who were demonstrating against the United States.

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        #5.1 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:50 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5940266,"authorDomain":"happilyretired"}

        24 hour rotation. Yep I remember. I got a healthy dose of religion during that period. There were a couple of times, that I just knew.... "this is it, it's all over".

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        #5.2 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:17 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":5936987,"authorDomain":"mightyblogger"}
        But the United States and Russia have numerous interests in common, including mutual security, and the greatest success will come from public silence and private discussions.

        So the suggestion being, don't exacerbate the situation through rhetoric in the media? Let's not demonize Russia, but instead work through the right channels to correct the situation. The right channels not being the press or public at large. Did I get that right?

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        Reply#6 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:20 PM EDT
        {"commentId":5961680,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

        In my experience, one's choices are not merely limited to demonizing adversaries or announcing that they are bosom buddies. Superior firepower really is part of the national security solution, but so is the backchannel.

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          #6.1 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:18 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":5938377,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

          Colonel Jacobs:

          I believe there is a larger issue here that deserves to be captured in context in light of Russian and Chinese diplomatic moves that test President Obama. First, when Secretary of State Clinton traveled to East Asia she pointedly took human rights off the table as she feels Chinese participation in climate change, the world financial crisis and global security discussions were too important to muddy up waters with "Freedom Talk."

          This toss off by Mrs. Clinton was a diplomatic error of the highest order. Mr. Bush's engagement of Russia, China and every other Tin Horn Dictator was based upon freedom, democracy and individual liberty of which despots where loath to hear. Since Mrs. Clinton tossed away Bush’s moral high ground for nothing, we’ve seen the opening of a Pandora’s box of Chinese provocations.

          Since Mrs. Clinton went to China, the Chinese have stirred up an International incident between the US and Chinese Navies, bashed US concepts of Democracy and Individual liberty at their Party Congress and questioned the financial viability of our T-Bills, the ultimate insult.

          With Mr. Kim flipping his middle finger at the US and allies again, Mrs. Clinton says China stands ready to help. First, I’d like to hear that from the Chinese themselves. Second, if China had any interest in stopping Mr. Kim and his nuclear program, they would have done so long ago. Please Hillary, don’t go back to the Far East or even talk to Chinese at Foggy Bottom or on the phone.

          As for Russia, Mr. Obama tried personal diplomacy by personal letter with Mr. Medvedev with the intention of trading Euro Missile Defense for “help” on Iran. To begin, Mr. Bush tried personal diplomacy with Putin, and it did not work, yet the Obama Team saw fit to trod down this failed path again. Mr. Medvedev quickly tossed aside the Obama missive as “counter productive.” More to the burden, Mr. Medvedev was in the process of moving the US out of Kyrgyzstan.

          Hell, Obama was so frustrated by not hearing a word from Mr. Medvedev that he leaked the letter himself. Weakness in the first degree, Mr. President.

          The upshot is Obama sends every signal he would prefer not to build Missile Defense in Europe, so why should the Russians give up something for what they believe they will obtain anyway for nothing? This Obama gambit is otherwise known as negotiating from weakness.

          This latest Russian ploy about using Cuba and Venezuela as Russian airbases is yet another slap in the face for Obama. While this Russian move is not inherently dangerous, it does point up that Russia feels itself encircled by the US and allies. This is another Russian chip on the board, and unlike Hillary Clinton, Mr. Putin knows how to husband and play his chips.

          Obama, Hillary and company better hit the reset button on their own failed foreign policy. Anyone believing Obama’s foreign policy is a success had better explain why Russia and China continue to throw diplomatic shoes at our president.

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          Reply#7 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:24 PM EDT
          {"commentId":5961745,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

          Well, I think you're quite right about the diplomatic ineptitude of this administration in particular---and of most politicians generally. As you probably already know, my untutored view is that politicians, even diplomats, ought to just shut up and get to work. Making ill-considered public announcements while representing the interests of one's country merely makes the job more difficult.

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          #7.1 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:23 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":5938633,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

          Human nature, at least for the present, seems driven by a need to for conflict.

          CONFLICT AS CATHARSIS

          I think one reason individuals and nations generate conflict, whether consciously or not, is catharsis. Individuals and nations need to vent their anxiety, which is nothing more or less than the free-floating energy generated by stress. One major stressor these days is economic insecurity. Another is terrorism.

          There are healthy ways to deal with stress and anxiety. For example, the seventh-day Sabbath was designed to be a period of rest. There are also unhealthy, though historically common, outlets for stress reduction.

          SCAPEGOATING

          In times of extreme crisis, nations have targeted scapegoats upon whom they vent their anxiety.

          For example, consider the following statement from "Nazis' 'Terrible Weapon,' Aimed at Minds and Hearts" (The New York Times, February 23, 2009):

          "And if this is how powerfully these images affect an early-21st-century viewer who would have been a prospective victim, imagine the power they had on believers, flattering their highest vision of themselves while reminding them that endangering this imminent utopia was the conniving Jew, known from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. In one 1943 poster a giant hand points accusingly at a corpulent caricature wearing a yellow star, 'Jude': 'He is to blame for the war!' This, of course, while Jews were being carried off on trains heading east to feed the crematoriums."

          http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/arts/24muse.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1&tntemail0=y&emc=tnt

          Perhaps we should be looking for an appropriate scapegoat upon whom we can individually and collectively pin our troubles. I will propose just such a victim at the conclusion of these remarks.

          MUTUAL SECURITY THREATS

          Who or what are the contenders for "security threat" against both the United States and Russia? Any short list must include:

          1. Islamic fascism.

          2. Global economic instability.

          3. Environmental impact of global warming.

          4. Energy shortages associated with the depletion of world oil reserves.

          5. Other.

          Arguably, a nation would pose a greater national security risk if more than one threat factor is associated with that nation. For example, Iran is the chief sources of Islamic fascism while its status as a major source of petroleum poises Iran as a formidable player in energy markets.

          I define Islamic fascism here as the territorial expansion of the religion of Islam through violence. That this is the aspiration of Iran is evident from its Constitution. Following are some excerpts from it, along with my occasional comment highlighting the difference in my approach to a worldview.

          CRITIQUE OF SELECT ASPECTS OF THE CONSTITUTION OF IRAN

          Excerpts from "The Constitution of Islamic Republic of Iran":
          (http://www.iranchamber.com/government/laws/constitution.php)

          1. "Islamic Government is designed on a basis of 'religious guardianship'".

          I advocate a marriage of religion and government.

          2. The Islamic Revolution in Iran "was successful in crushing all the calculations and maneuverings of Imperialism. A new chapter opened up in its own way for popular revolutions in the world."

          The Islamic Revolution is historically poised to fill the vacuum in world superpower status vacated by the USSR. I favor establishing a unified voice for Islam and a limit on the territorial bounds of Islam, as well as other faiths. This action would effectively end religious proselytizing by Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

          3. Iran "is planning to build its new model society on such a basis, with Islamic standards. The Mission of the Constitution is to identify itself with the basic beliefs of the movement and to bring about the conditions under which the lofty and worldwide values' of Islam will flourish."

          4. "The Constitution, having regard to the Islamic contents of the Iranian Revolution, which was a movement for the victory of all the oppressed over the arrogant, provides a basis for the continuation of that revolution both inside and outside the country. It particularly tries to do this in developing international relations with other Islamic movements and peoples, so as to prepare the way towards a united single world community. . ."

          A "united single world community"? A New World Order under Islam? See comments under #2.

          5. "In creating the political structures and foundations for organizing society on the basis of acceptance of religion, devout men have the responsibility for government and administration of the country."

          No one should be compelled to convert to a faith. However, all citizens should respect the cultural role of the faith that dominates their nation. All children should be schooled publicly to demonstrate a fact-based, non-sectarian awareness of the Sacred Texts of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (Tanakh, New Testament, Koran).

          6. "On the basis of continuous Guardianship and Leadership (Imamate) the Constitution provides for leadership under all conditions, (by a person) recognized by the people as lender, so that there shall be security against deviation by various organizations."

          7. "In strengthening the foundations of the economy, the governing principle is the satisfaction of mankind's needs in the course of its growth and development. It is not (the pursuit) of other economic objectives (systems) , such as centralization and the accumulation of wealth and the search for profit. In materialistic schools of thought, economic activity (the economy) is its own end This at (different) stages of growth, economic activity is a factor working for destruction and corruption and decay."

          This appears to be socialistic. While I favor public works and a social safety net, I prefer free enterprise and individual opportunity to accumulate wealth. The economic rights and viability of economic groups such as corporations are subject to ethical review by and the justice standards of the Mahdi, or his vicegerents in his absence. Islamic banking should adopt reasonable interest (not usury) as defined by the Mahdi, or his vicegerents in his absence.

          8. "In the organization and equipping of the countries defense forces, there must be regard for faith and religion as their basis and rules. And so the Islamic Republic's army, and the corps of Revolutionary Guards must be organized in accordance with this aim. They have responsibility not only for the safeguarding of the frontiers, but also for a religious mission, which is Holy War (JIHAD) along the way of God, and the struggle to extend the supremacy of God's Law in the world."

          It would be reasonable for the non-Islamic West to regard with suspicion a nation whose stated and CONSTITUTIONALLY CODIFIED intention is that of spreading violent revolution. Because of this intention, the West has an interest in preventing Iran from developing and/or receiving weapons that can be used for mass destruction (WMD's) against the West. The events of 9/11 have proven that WMD's are not necessary to conduct terrorist objectives. The only solution to religious-based global threats is peaceful co-existence, which in turn, is conceivable along the lines of a Christocracy of Dual Messiahs.

          9. "[P]rovision must be made for the establishment of a judicial system on the basis of Islamic justice, manned by just judges, well acquainted with the exact rules of the Islamic code. Such a pattern of organization is necessary because of the delicate and subtle structure of Religion, which must be kept free from any kind of unhealthy relationship."

          I have advocated a similar conception of a judiciary in "Reflections Toward the Future Form of an Iraqi Government",

          http://amberneve.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/18/2014483-reflections-toward-the-future-form-of-an-iraqi-government

          Judges must be capable of ruling on the constitutionality of cases in a manner characterized in the West as "judicial activism". In other words, judges must weigh the principles of law so that justice is the over-riding outcome of a legal action. Too often in the West, governments tolerate a "revolving door" between public and private sectors, laws that advantage a private interest, and reliance on non-activist judges to enforce the letter of the law at the expense of the higher principles of the republic. This is corruption at its worst.

          10. "The public media (radio-television) must take their place in the process of development of the Islamic revolution, and must serve in the propagation of Islamic culture."

          I favor a free, responsible press.

          ADDITIONAL REMARKS ON THE CONSTITUTION OF IRAN

          It is important to bear in mind two considerations when reading "The Constitution of Islamic Republic of Iran":

          1. The principles of Islam underpinning the Constitution are provisional, still unfolding, and will not solidify until they are articulated by the Twelfth Imam, the Mahdi.

          2. The role of the executive Supreme Leader, while ultimate and arbitrary, is still LESS than the power that will be held by the Twelfth Imam, the Mahdi.

          Iran is held in trust by its religious leadership on behalf of the Twelfth Imam, the Mahdi.

          ENGAGING IRAN IN TALKS

          President Barack Obama is insistent that channels of communication be opened between the United States and Iran. The nature and level of communication is still a matter of debate. I have always favored talks. I think an appropriate precursor to talks, an act of goodwill, would be an easing of some economic sanctions.

          The events of 9/11 proved that Islamic militancy is a threat to the West. For centuries, Russia has faced the threat of Islamic extremism from its underside. Catherine the Great settled the Volga River Basin with German immigrants in order to buffer the expansion of Islam into the Russian homeland. My own ancestors were among those settlers; I carry Russian blood in my veins and harbor a natural fondness for Russia and the Russian people.

          I do not know whether Russia has agreed to assist Iran to develop its nuclear program in exchange for Iran's cooperation in combatting Islamic militancy in Chechnya.

          THREAT OF THE DRUG TRADE

          Regarding the nature of these talks, I think the United States, Russia, and Iran can agree that they share a common enemy -- the drug trade. I have read that Iran has a significant problem combatting heroine addiction and Afghanistan is a major source of the drug. Addressing the mutual threat posed by the drug trade could be the non-confrontational, humanitarian ground upon which to grow a dialogue between the three countries.

          I propose that scapegoating the drug trade would be a satisfactory method for venting national and international anxieties.

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          Reply#8 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:48 PM EDT
          {"commentId":5939308,"authorDomain":"beausophie"}

          Sorry, but this is too long to read. I know there is more venting of anger upon the American citizens from other American citizens. This is to be seen in all the violence and anger people display every day. The clerks in th stores are short, abrupt, people are killing other people. There are hungry people without jobs who kill themselves and their families. We need to relax, take each day as it comes, and deal with whatever we have to do...one day at a time. God promises not to put on us more than we can bear to handle. If we remember that one thing, then we can go about our lives in peace. Be kind to other people, listen to them, and help people when and where it is needed.

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          #8.1 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:58 PM EDT
          {"commentId":5939468,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

          Yes, Margaret, this is good personal policy, worth reminding ourselves. I pray that nations will eventually practice the same policy.

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          #8.2 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:13 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":5943729,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

          It is already quite clear whom Obama and his following will scapegoat when all of their "Big Ideas" have turned out to be unattainable because of unaffordability or a general national catastrophe brought on by unanticipated military defeats and direct attacks on our homeland.

          The Obamacrats will blame George W. Bush, all neo-cons, all economic conservatives, all of the religious right, and all red staters, especially those of the South. The Democrat scapegoating attack will not be logical or fact-based, so much as the vicious, gut reaction of ideologues-- the frustration of zealots who just don't know how to blame or deal with any threatening "foreign" threats, such as Islamic terrorism, Russian imperialism, or Chinese and Korean power-play based exaggerated senses of destiny and the historical moment.

          American left-wingers only know how to blame evil American corporations and "morons" like George W. Bush for messing up America's standing in the world so badly that it can't possibly be fixed (it now turns out.) Therefore, the left will just have to turn inward and eliminate any remaining semblance of conservative, traditionalist thinking before they can even begin to think about rectifying the external dangers, disasters, and humiliations the U.S. will be suffering on their watch.

          Every time I hear Obama reverting to blaming Bush I cringe, because I know what is coming when all the kaka hits the fan.

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          Reply#9 - Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:37 AM EDT
          {"commentId":5954786,"authorDomain":"ftmackinc"}

          well thank goodness there are more people who believe the direct opposite of that crap then ... lol

          geezuss man there are psychiatric drugs that can help that ya know.

          like we are waiting for the crap to hit the fan lol

          friggen Bush and the conservatives" leave us up to our god damn ears in results from their bull sheeet and have the god damn nerve to say...."when"

          I just can't do anything but laugh at it any more.

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          #9.1 - Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:18 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":5955395,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

          I was 10 years old when the Cuban Missile crisis came up. I remember my parents and my uncles making us kids sit quiet and watch the president and the news of it on tv. I remember it because it was one of the few times I ever saw all my uncles so serious about anything. They were talking about war and nuclear bombs, I'll never forget those days.

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          Reply#10 - Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
          {"commentId":5962075,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

          As Dick Cheney said yesterday, the Obama administration is trying with both hands to un-do the success in Iraq and throw away the major techniques for successfully keeping our nation safe from terrorist attack that have worked since 2001.

          By the way, Maliki in Iraq is telling the Obama administration this morning that Iraqis would very much prefer that the US do not withdraw our combat soldiers from certain provinces anytime soon.

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          Reply#11 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:48 AM EDT
          {"commentId":6029617,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

          That's an interesting observation that has escaped the attention of most people who purport to grasp the situation. National security professionals inside this and the previous administrations have told the WH the same thing: say what you want to the press and the people, especailly during a campaign, but remember that the decisions you will make will have to be contingent on the situation. Our problem, of course, is that we don't have adequate forces to be wholly successful in both Iraq and Afghanistan, nor do we have the requisite mix of forces, either.

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          #11.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:06 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":6030227,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

          According to Medvyedev yesterday, Russia now has the resources to begin massive new spending on military procurement. I am betting that most of that will go for unmanned aircraft, yet more stealthy, hypersonic anti-ship missiles and cruise missiles, and Future Warfare-type systems intended to be used by Spetznaz-type units.

          I wonder how the Chinese are coming on their radar system that uses all ambient RF energy in the environment for radar information, instead of broadcasting a radar beam and waiting for a particular frequency to bounce back? The ambient system depends on super-computer power to sort out all the radio trash (because there are radio waves from a lot of things in the air at any moment and they are all constantly bouncing off of things.) It seems to me this broad-band approach was touted as being able to defeat stealth technology.

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            Reply#12 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:50 AM EDT
            {"commentId":6047099,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

            Perhaps I should be working for the Russians. I am growing impatient by the neglect from the Obama Administration, which seems stuck in a 1960's-style "Great Society" timewarp.

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            #12.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:47 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":6054744,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

            Neron, I have a similar problem. In the next week I am going to be granted a patent that will have important aerospace applications. It concerns an idea that I have worked on for the last 40 years, never making a penny on it.

            Eventually, the U.S. government will realize that it needs my patent. The thing is, if this realization finally occurs to them three years from now I am going to want them to pay me a lump sum of $33 million and they pay all taxes on that sum. I am anticipating, of course, that the U.S. income tax rate for the bracket I will be entering will be 50% or much greater by that time.

            You know, I am the same age as Bill Clinton and Al Gore and my compensation package should at least be on the low end of what those guys made from the federal government in total, plus from all their private business that was pumped up by their government history.

            If they don't want to pay, well, what choice do I have? Somebody out there will want to give me fair value.

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            Reply#13 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:52 AM EDT
            {"commentId":6060524,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

            Congratulations on your patent. I hope you receive its value.

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            #13.1 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:22 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":6067623,"authorDomain":"mikekathycook"}

            Well, the value may not be 33 million, but 3.3 million would be reasonable. The point is that the USA needs to survive through the next four years, which is beginning to look like a dicey proposition.

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            Reply#14 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:55 PM EDT
            {"commentId":7108329,"authorDomain":"16floz470ml"}

            If the border is militarized do we get to call it The Berlin Wall?

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