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The Prize

Before the excitement inevitably ebbs, it would be amusing and instructive to examine the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama, and of the granting of such recognition generally.

It is an irony, of course, that the prizes were endowed by the man who contributed directly to the deadliness of modern warfare by inventing dynamite in 1867, and his creation of the trust was in large measure an act of expiation. Since the establishment of the awards more than one hundred years ago, the selections and the process that has produced them have often been enveloped in controversy, almost always a result in any system that recognizes some achievements and ignores others.

There has been great criticism of the award to Obama, and even he was genuinely surprised by the selection. The principal complaint is that he did not actually do anything to warrant the recognition, and it is difficult to argue with that. But it is tough to find many other recipients of the Peace Prize who actually did anything either, and the fact that there has never been a year in which war wasn't raging somewhere drives one to the conclusion that the Nobel Peace Prize is an empty accolade.

Remember that granting recognition of any kind is a subjective evaluation made not by machines but by people, and people can never separate their biases from the process of decision. Every human endeavor is fraught with such subjectivity, and the more we try to empower decisions with the binomial accuracy of modern technology, the clearer it becomes that life's major decisions are based in large part on whim. Most people will spend more time trying to select between two tomatoes in a supermarket---a selection with very little monetary consequence---than they will to make a major choice: to spend thousands on a car or hundreds of thousands on a home. And please consider marriage, a significant life decision with no component other than emotion.

Although all decisions are subjective, the fuzziest are those that deal with fuzzy subjects. Many people think "The Grapes of Wrath" and Citizen Kane" to be among the best English-language motion pictures of all time, and yet neither won an Oscar for Best Picture. "Rocky," considered by many to be a genuinely awful movie, won the award in 1976.

The smallest number of arguments about selections of the Nobel committees have been about the sciences, and there are few who would deny the worthiness of Curie, Crick, Rutherford, Roentgen and a host of others whose efforts were measurable, productive and important to the human condition. But the awards for economics, literature and peace are especially contentious. No level of excellence in the study of micro- or macroeconomic excellence seems to have a positive impact on the economic well-being of the large majority of the world's population. Most people think that James Joyce created great literature, but Joyce was not a recipient. Read any Halldor Laxness? He received the Prize in 1955.

And the Peace Prize? Well, Yasser Arafat was a recipient, and the president's surprise at his own selection may be tinged with his understanding of Groucho Marx's remark that he would rather not be a member of a club that would have him as a member. Even the selection committee has had some understanding of the vaporous and vapid nature of the Peace Prize: it has resorted many times to its default selection, the Red Cross, and failed to select any winner about 20% of the time.

One can ascribe many motivations to the committee's selection: a commentary on the Bush administration; a commentary on American policy; an attempt to move American policy in a specific direction; it genuinely believes Obama merits the award; it just likes Obama. Any may be the case---or they may all be the case.

It is probably too extreme to say that being selected for the Nobel Peace Prize means nothing. That is surely true in a practical sense, and in President Obama's case the things that he may do---or not do---during the remainder of his tenure may give some on the selection committee a case of buyer's remorse. But the Nobel Peace Prize is really no more than a pat on the back and, except for the money, is worth no more than that.

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{"commentId":10032569,"authorDomain":"serebra-the-ponderer"}

I always thought that the Nobel Peace Prize was really a great honor to acknowledge someone's accomplishments. But you guys have totally picked it apart since won by President Barack Hussein Obama. Should I never praise another winner? Will you do this to the next winner? Are you just making news, or are you trying to do a political thing by using this to help the Republicans say NO to everything President Obama trys to do for this Country? Such negativity! Such disdain! Such hatred! Such an abomination for everyone receiving the Nobel Peach Prize prior to the President. For in order to say he doesn''t deserve it, you have had to discount the award as being valid also. You said"

"One can ascribe many motivations to the committee's selection: a commentary on the Bush administration; a commentary on American policy; an attempt to move American policy in a specific direction; it genuinely believes Obama merits the award; it just likes Obama. Any may be the case---or they may all be the case.

It is probably too extreme to say that being selected for the Nobel Peace Prize means nothing. That is surely true in a practical sense, and in President Obama's case the things that he may do---or not do---during the remainder of his tenure may give some on the selection committee a case of buyer's remorse. But the Nobel Peace Prize is really no more than a pat on the back and, except for the money, is worth no more than that."

I'll tell you this. May God help you if you, your children, or anyone in your family every do something really great, and qualify for such a rotten award. And if that happens, I hope you all will have the integrity to turn it down. You know, what goes around, comes around. I hope you don't meet yourself some day.

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Reply#1 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":10065310,"authorDomain":"matthew-babiarz"}

Are you serious with this comment because I honestly cannot tell if your trying to be sarcastic or not? Yassir Arafat as a Nobel laureate???? The man was an unrepentant terrorist, whose PLO was responsible for scores of murders. How does that not diminish the value of this award. Where is the award for Pope John Paul II and his work defeating communism? Oh that's right, he doesn't fit the bill that the highly liberal Nobel committee likes to see in their nominees. But a man like Jimmy Carter, who almost started WWIII with the Russians, deserves it. Give me a break.

Unless of course you were being sarcastic, but I dont think thats the case.

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#1.1 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT
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{"commentId":10033832,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

Any word about which charity Obama plans to donate the proceeds? I need a new computer.

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Reply#2 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":10065324,"authorDomain":"matthew-babiarz"}

Prolly going to donate it to ACORN since they had their funding cut......what too soon for ACORN jokes??

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#2.1 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT
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{"commentId":10034137,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

Col. Jack Jacobs, this is probably the best, fairest and most helpful article I have seen on this subject. Kudos, sir.

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Reply#3 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:25 PM EDT
{"commentId":10094160,"authorDomain":"jackjacobs"}

Thanks. As much as an extremist as I am---and as we all tend to be on some subjects, especially as we get older---I find it useful to cut to basics, something we all learned as brand new soldiers.

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#3.1 - Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
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{"commentId":10034975,"authorDomain":"lambchop"}

I was a huge fan of 'change' &, if asked a year ago if our Prez would have deserved this award I would have said 'yes'. As it turns out, for me, not so much! Where's the peace? & his blather about the personal lives of those in service being personal.... Well, I guess we'll see about that 2! You are always a stimulating read & I find myself reflecting on your blog @the oddest times!

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Reply#4 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:15 PM EDT
{"commentId":10035884,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

The prize of our high calling is not won; it is achieved. I vow to refuse all honors.

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Reply#5 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT
{"commentId":10037321,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

I speak for myself. I do not begrudge Obama; I congratulate his success. But I question whether this award is a blessing or a curse. By rewarding achievement BEFORE the fact, the Nobel Committee must imply they hold Obama to a high level of expectations. Ordinarily this sort of unspoken contract is played out in the unique relationship held between parents and children or youth, not between a European council and a United States president. I suspect, however, Obama would have been a peacemaker without the public nudging.

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#5.1 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:56 PM EDT
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{"commentId":10035980,"authorDomain":"val-1291745"}

I guess some one had to rain on his parade, and who could be better at it than col jack?. Col. jack, obvously. Next time, just to make him happy, it, the nobel prize, should be given to George Bush. And then we will have a parades, and col. jack will declared that a national holiday should be observe for such a glorious day. And all republicans, thereafter, lived forever happy.

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Reply#6 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:23 PM EDT
{"commentId":10065205,"authorDomain":"matthew-babiarz"}

Way off base. Colonel Jacobs has be HIGHLY critical of the last administration. He dishes out critisism on a very fair basis.

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#6.1 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:36 PM EDT
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{"commentId":10036644,"authorDomain":"lambchop"}

geeze.... Col. JJ is an equal oppertunity abuserr. That's why his blog rocks, silly

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Reply#7 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":10040851,"authorDomain":"jbdaad"}
There has been great criticism of the award to Obama, and even he was genuinely surprised by the selection. The principal complaint is that he did not actually do anything to warrant the recognition, and it is difficult to argue with that.

Right on the money.

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Reply#8 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:35 AM EDT
{"commentId":10042804,"authorDomain":"cookaerospace"}

news flash, obama has been awarded the heisman trophy after watching a college football game!

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Reply#9 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":10065485,"authorDomain":"matthew-babiarz"}

Lose lose for the administration. If they dont accept it, they counter act much of the butt kissing theyve done in Europe the past 9 months. If they do accept it lends more credence to the idea that the right holds about the arrogance of this administration. It wont matter how humbly he accepts it, or if he just sends some low level functionary to receive it on his behalf it will come across as haughty.

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Reply#10 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":10095213,"authorDomain":"musicl1"}

As we speak to this let's not forget that recipients of this award don't nominate themselves and in that regard only the committee is prevy to nominating. Just remember to breath folks.

musicl1:)

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    Reply#11 - Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:31 AM EDT
    {"commentId":10096631,"authorDomain":"wntobitt"}

    President Obama is going to give his enemies (Republicans and Racists) heartburns and heart attacks – I pity them. Everything he touches turn to gold. Every time they think that he is going under it turns out he has them right where he wants them. From his presidential run to healthcare reform, they have been heralding him as weak and on the verge of imminent defeat, and he has confounded them with victory after victory. They say Europeans thumb their nose at him and they celebrated when Chicago lost the Olympics bid; a week later he gets the Noble Peace Prize – they almost rapture a spleen.

    The world is breathing a sigh of relief that he has restored sanity to international relations; the economy is turning around; Banks are repaying the TARP; The DOW pushes pass 10000; Unemployment compensation is dropping as the number of layoffs drops – not looking good for his doubters. Yes, we still have two wars (one not going so good), and we still have negative jobs gain, but if you told me we would be here at the start of the year, I’d take it in a heartbeat. At the start of the year we were plunging downwards faster than a speeding bullet, now we have an open parachute – President Barak Obama. Life is beginning to be looking good. Keep up the good works Mr. President, and congrats on your Nobel Peace Prize.

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      Reply#12 - Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:33 AM EDT
      {"commentId":10106178,"authorDomain":"matthew-babiarz"}

      Banks are repaying TARP, but only enough to provide them political cover. Applications for uneployment compensation have declined, though no one is conviced that it is because jobs have been created, more likely a function of the fact that people have run out their clock on unemployment. The DOW being above 10000 has little to do with the overall health of the economy. Its a feel good measure for day traders and arm chair economists.

      According to you he has restored sanity to international relations, but thats if you believe that our nations interests can be served through international institutions. The jury isnt even deliberating yet on those moves simply because he hasnt actually finished anything yet. You are correct in asserting that the President is in fact doing alot, however I have yet to be shown any follow through. Health care, Afghanistan, Iran, climate change, there has been little in the way of concrete decisions made.

      If you can survive on nothing but lofty goals and rhetoric, then more power to you. I would like to seem him actually complete something before being given an award.

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        #12.1 - Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:15 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":10118106,"authorDomain":"cookaerospace"}

        The new climate change rules are deliberately calculated to make the world colder, however the world is doing that on its own for the last decade at least. So Cap and Trade is likely to make a bad situation even worse and cripple what remains of our economy while doing so.

        I'm just a poor farm boy from Montana, but I do know enough to come in out of the snow. Of course they will claim that in a lot of obscure places where ordinary folks can't do their own fact checking, the world really is still getting warmer. I do not believe them. Consciously or unconsciously they have skewed their data then raced on to draw conclusions that are increasingly at odds with all reality.

        I still have Russia on the mind having returned from a leisurely trip in August. In my opinion Russians have never minded totalitarian rule, as long as that ruler is a winner and not an incompetent fool. What really doomed the czar and his family is that first he lost Port Arthur to the Japanese and then he fielded an expensive army that was adequate to fight the decayed Austro-Hungarian empire, but woefully incompetent at fighting Germans.

        Competence matters.

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          Reply#13 - Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:48 AM EDT
          {"commentId":10147624,"authorDomain":"tom-carter"}

          There's no reason to criticize the President over this goofball award of the Nobel Peace Prize. He didn't ask for it, and he knows that he's done nothing to deserve it.

          Having said that, the political Nobels (notably Peace and Literature) long ago lost their substantive significance. However, they still carry a lot of prestige, and this one may also prove to be an albatross around Obama's neck. Every time he makes a decision the far left dislikes, they'll undoubtedly make a smirking reference to his Nobel Peace Prize.

          There's also an interesting issue of whether Obama's accepting the Nobel would be in violation of the Constitution.

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            Reply#14 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:44 AM EDT
            {"commentId":10572224,"authorDomain":"s524729"}

            It doesn't really matters what is being said.He won.However if this is a example of what it takes to win this thing.It is a very sorry award and i wouldn't want people to know i won.

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