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American Politics 101

Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
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By Col. Jack Jacobs
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Today in Washington, DC, it was forecast to be 104 degrees, but the weather was nothing compared to the heat that the participants in the debt imbroglio are generating in their attempt to press for advantage in the debt ceiling death spiral. On the surface, at least, it seems like straightforward ideology, but dig a little deeper and you will also see American power politics at their most inefficient, frustrating, primitive, and dangerous.

Although the solutions to America's fiscal woes are varied, complex and unattainable in the short run, the problem itself is relatively simple. The American government spends more that it collects in revenues, and it has to borrow money to cover the difference. In this regard, the United States is not very much different from the average American, and in general the arrangement permits us to have what we want now without paying for it all now. Within reason and a fairly wide margin of error, such schemes are good because they contribute both directly and indirectly to the creation of wealth for most people.

There is something of a limit to how much can be borrowed by most debtors, but an erstwhile superb credit rating like that of the United States government could usually borrow more money at reasonable rates. At the moment, some leaders are not willing to raise the legal limit on how much we can borrow without also imposing changes on the way in which the government spends the money it takes from citizens and lenders. Without some sort of compromise, this will all end in tears.

On the surface, the battle is between: 1) those who want to protect entitlements like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and other programs that aid those who are unable to take sufficient care of themselves and 2) those who believe that we must stop spending more than we can collect. In an ideal world, we would do both, and when an economy is humming along, and with just a modicum of restraint and wisdom, that's exactly what can happen, to everyone's great satisfaction. When the economy stinks--as it does now and will continue to do for some time---choices have to be made, and because these are not choices at the margins, people are ready to strangle each other. Whatever slim wisdom these people may have possessed has evaporated in the oven of ideology and political advantage.

Some of the loudest vituperation seems to be for President Obama because he actually tried to take some leadership of this critical process, and his stable-mates don't like the need for compromise that this difficult situation requires. And they may have reached him: he has not yielded to Republican entreaties to reform taxes as part of this deal. Of course, the Democrats in Congress would be less vocal if Obama were unwilling to yield on the matter of entitlements, and Boehner's quitting the negotiations is helpful neither to the process of solving the  problem nor the public's regard for Republicans. But leadership is not something any president or Congressional big-shot can demonstrate easily, and if Obama and Boehner feel that the mere logic of their arguments should be sufficient persuasion to convince the other side, they both need to get back on their medications.

The budget needs to be slashed, revenues need to be increased, and the debt ceiling needs to be raised. The number of things on which the nation should be unwilling to compromise---imperatives like freedom and national security---should be very small. If 536 people can bankrupt the other 307,000,000, then the latter should be properly irate and demand that their representatives act like adults rather than the narrow-minded, sanctimonious fools that they appear to be. If it seems that politicians are squandering the nation's well-being in an attempt to win a virtual game of power politics, it is not without the ample evidence that they are.

 

 

 

 

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WO_ORD

Well said!

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:17 PM EDT
Fred Orth

 WOW, I totally agree with this! Obviously, therefore, I think that this is a superb Op-Ed.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:21 PM EDT
oldfogey

A very good read of our current situation.

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:29 PM EDT
Fla Pat

If 536 people can bankrupt the other 307,000,000, then the latter should be properly irate and demand that their representatives act like adults rather than the narrow-minded, sanctimonious fools that they appear to be.

With the corporate hold on both parties in congress I cannot believe a deal would not get done. It would not be in their best interest for ideology to collapse the slight recovery we have seen since 2009. The up side for big business is tremendous as the last 2 years have shown, the consequences of no deal could be fatal, economically speaking.

The budget needs to be slashed, revenues need to be increased, and the debt ceiling needs to be raised.

Is this not what the 2010 mid-terms told us all? Certainly any recent polling of the American people bear this out.

    Reply#4 - Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
    jfxgillis

    Colonel Jack:

    The number of things on which the nation should be unwilling to compromise---imperatives like freedom and national security---should be very small.

    In other words, we shouldn't cut the budget of the institution you're associated with, just everyone else's. Or is there a trillion on so in the Pentagon you think we could cut?

    • 5 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:48 PM EDT
    markpup

    Wonderfully balanced article. Just 2 points:

    First, I like Obama in a lot of ways, but I think he rates very poorly on leadership. If he was a real leader in the Roosevelt(s) or LBJ mold, this whole debt ceiling battle would be over. I really can't blame the GOP for being tough negotiators because Obama's already caved and they know they'll get more concessions if they press.

    Second - on defense, we've nearly tripled the outlay on that in the last 15 years. I agree certainly freedom and national security are important, but we really can afford to cut back there.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#6 - Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:49 PM EDT
    yeagerdog

    Col., I agree with your article, but it may be in our interest to let the country go down the tubes, so that the people will understand that electing people like this present republican group that keeps saying my way or the highway, is a bad idea and maybe then, the people will stop backing those that are their enemy.

      Reply#7 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 AM EDT
      Col. Jack Jacobs

      Of course, the Republicans say the same thing about the Democrats, and therein lies part of the problem. We hope that reason will prevail, but as a functioning strategy for success, hope alone is insufficient.

      • 3 votes
      #7.1 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:21 AM EDT
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      Col. Jack Jacobs

      We can---and should---cut expenditures in every area, but in all categories, including defense, many line items are not at high levels because of real or perceived necessity but because of legislators' personal whims; the value of the expentures to legislators' own districts (and therefore re-election chances); or for trading later in exchange for things more valuable.

      As for defense, part of the gargantuan expense is a function of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, but the savings from withdrawal won't hit the budget for some time. If Panetta is successful, Defense may shed as much as $400 billion of its expenditures, but I believe it may be more like half that. In the end, the people will speak on election day.

      And as for Obama's leadership, it is interesting how attitudes change. I was in the Army when LBJ was the subject of a mass of hate for his prosecution of the war in Vietnam, but today he is revered as the tough leader who stared down a reluctant Congress to squeeze from it revolutionary social legislation. FDR, Harry Truman, even Abraham Lincoln---they a few others who history has treated kindly---were mercilessly flayed, in some cases often, by the press and public while they served, but our opinions of them are much different now.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#8 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:42 AM EDT
      Chris-382117

      Col. Jacobs,

      First, Sir, Thank you for your service to this country and for wearing the Medal of Honor so honorably in the name of those who were not fortunate enough to come back or wear it themselves.

      You hit the true problem on the head when you said:

      If 536 people can bankrupt the other 307,000,000, then the latter should be properly irate and demand that their representatives act like adults rather than the narrow-minded, sanctimonious fools that they appear to be.

      While I am well aware that we will need to raise taxes (Probably back to those of the Clinton era or even before), close all loopholes for everyone, and raise the debt ceiling to give us some working room, but I have a problem with give them any more money until we can put a few controls on congress and lock up the bottle of "Old Spendaholic" that they have been drinking for the past 50+ years. They have grown addicted to the taste of the taxpayer's teat and they spend like a drunk sailor in a "Popo City" cathouse. Each year Congress spent more because "they could" and the next year, it was even more because "we did it last year." Keep eatingthis way, year after year, and before long, you will be a 750lb shut-in that can't get through the friggin' door. That is what I think they have become.This isn't one party, it is both equally and neither has proven to have any responsibility or accountability except to their corporate / special interest / ideological masters.

      I am all for a "Clean Bill" as some call it just as soon as you can find me a "Clean Politician" that will not spend the public treasury on his friends, supporters, lobbyist, and contributors like that drunk sailor. Jefferson Smith doesn't exist and, until he does and can be cloned 535 more times, there have to be some restraints on Sen. Jack S. Phogbound. That is why I want a balanced budget amendment or at very least the debt ceiling increase attached to real spending cuts. Otherwise, they will just grab the bottle, pull down their zipper, and continue on more trips to the red light district as they have done for so many years.

      Congress, et.al, have proven that they are incapable of curbing their diet regarding the public treasury. They have created a $14 Trillion debt, raided the FICA fund and replaced the money with IOU's (about another $4 Trillion), and created a series of underfunded liabilities (Prescription Drugs, Medicare, Medicaid, etc) worth another $100 Trillion. IMO, if I were able to give them enough money to completely clear the National Debt and all of the underfunded liabilities, in less than 20 years, congress would have us right back where they are today. There is no accountability or responsibility in Washington from either party that has held power except to their financial or ideological masters and We the People are just along for the ride.

      I see us headed in the direction of Greece and neither side will blink, that is the scary part. What is that magic number where the debt is some percentage higher than the GDP that triggers Hyper-inflation? Is it 130% (like Greece), 150%, 250%, or 500%; I don't know, but we are flirting with 100% right now with no end in site. Sooner or later, the FED will hold a debt auction and no one will come. Then we will be an a real hell of a mess.

      Again, Sir, thank you for your service. From an old Jarhead, 3rd Marines 68-69, Quang Tri and Thau Thien Provinces.

      Semper Fi

      • 2 votes
      #8.1 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:59 AM EDT
      Col. Jack Jacobs

      Chris: Semper Fi from an old soldier.

      Because they find it impossible to predict the future, most people, and especially politicians, make assumptions about future conditions that are more likely to be wrong than right. When times are difficult, they will assume that things will get better: the government recently based a rescue plan that assumed 5% annual growth for a decade, a nearly impossible achievement for the United States. When things are rosy, the assumption is that it will at least stay that way and probably get better. The natural conclusion in both cases is to spend more than we have, and when you add to this the power of constituencies for higher spending---on both sides of the aisle---you get the problem we have now, exacerbated by an economy that is already rotten.

      Some say that we need a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget. This is not remotely possible, and it isn't economically wise anyway. What we need is leadership, not rhetoric and irresponsibility, but in an American political scene that values stridency and abides dysfunctionality we are not likely to get it.

      • 6 votes
      #8.2 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:15 AM EDT
      Chris-382117

      Col. Jacobs,

      When will you be declaring? You have My vote!

      • 1 vote
      #8.3 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:19 AM EDT
      Chris-382117

      Col. Jacobs,

      What we need is leadership, not rhetoric and irresponsibility,

      But we also need integrity back in Washington. That is what has been missing for at least the past 30 years. When I was in the Marine Corps, one of the bedrock principles of leadership was integrity. I remember one of my leadership manuals saying that

      Integrity is what you are when no one else is looking; when no one but You will ever know.

      Without integrity, you could not be a leader. Right now there is none in Washington. I remember people like Hubert Humphrey and Everett Dirksen. I despised Humphrey's agenda and I liked Dirksen's, but I respected BOTH of them because they were honest, truly cared about the country as a whole (whether you agreed with their stance or not), could be counted one to keep their word on a deal, and had unquestionable integrity. Once they "Shook on a deal", it was done; the signing of the legislation was only a formality. We have none of that today Washington ; only self centered, self important, demigods that can't keep their I-phone out of their skivvies or their hands out of the cookie jar.

      There is no trust left in Washington between the parties or between the candidates and their constituency. We just elect the lesser of the two evils. We have degenerated into armed camps that vote only for party. I read comment all the time like post #7 here. This is a person that would rather eat his own children with a side order of coarsely crushed glass than vote for a %#@&!* [insert party you hate here]. They strictly follow the party because those damned [hated party] can't be trusted in anything.

      Until we get rid of that attitude, I don't know how we will fix these problems

      • 5 votes
      #8.4 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:53 AM EDT
      Capt Al

      Chris!

      They have grown addicted to the taste of the taxpayer's teat and they spend like a drunk sailor in a "Popo City" cathouse.

      As a proud member of the Naval Service ,we all take exception to that reference. We quit drinking when we ran out of money.(such sweet memories) Since the Senate couldn't pass a balanced budget amendment and cares not to, it is difficult to see the American public at large sacrificing all the time to live within their means when big brother doesn't. I believe these protracted wars which we have become involved in are a drain not only money wise but on our citizens who serve and their families. We continue to fight wars to a stalemate and not victory and that takes years, lives, and a lot of money. Defense of our country is one thing but nation building in the middle east and SW Asia is flushing money down the drain(in my mind). It appears to me that MATURE leadership is lacking in DC and this petty bickering hurts us all. Col Jacobs, you have a much better understanding on the economic impact of all of this, but the anger of everyone I am in contact with is something I have never seen before due to this impasse. Our elected officials seem not to have the best interest of the Republic and its'citizens at heart. Great article Col Jacobs and Semper Fi all

      • 3 votes
      #8.5 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:03 AM EDT
      Chris-382117

      Capt Al

      As a proud member of the Naval Service ,we all take exception to that reference.

      My appologies; "I should have said Sailor or Marine". Olongapo ("PoPo) City during the Vietnam War had quite the collection of cathouses and bars just outside of Subic Bay. Many a Sailor or Marine lost 6 months pay in a single night with a stroll down Magsaysay Drive.

      We quit drinking when we ran out of money.(such sweet memories)

      The problem is that Congress still has a credit card with an open limit and we get to pay the bill.

      • 2 votes
      #8.6 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:20 AM EDT
      Capt Al

      Chris,with a big smile I have to say many a wounded Marine who was treated at the Navy Hospital at Subic Bay,returned with a smile on his face as he lamented the loss of months worth of accrued pay while "recovering" there. That being said, we earned it,spent it and went and earned more through our own blood,sweat and tears. If our "leaders" today would get the hint to "LEAD", our men and woman would not mind following but the fruits of their labor should not be taken and squandered.

      • 2 votes
      #8.7 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:30 AM EDT
      Chris-382117

      Guilty as charged.

        #8.8 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:40 AM EDT
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        fmcarp

        The increased cost to the US by the boomers generation has been known for years. Its a shame that no previous administration or congress dealt with this years ago. But that being said, the tax cuts of the Bush years, along with the expense of wars, is the main reason we have come to this point of no return. Obamas mistake was continueing these tax cuts. He should have held firm in that reguard. The cost of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, should be a known rise with the boomers, and should have been funded with an increase in revenues to cover that increase. Its foolish to act like this is a surprise.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#9 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:14 AM EDT
        Capt Al

        FM! I know you realize the American taxpayer pre-pays SS and Medicare and keeps paying for them when they receive the benefits. Since LBJ that money has gone into the honey pot for the congress to dole out, even to those who never paid in, and not reserved for the ones who paid in. It is easier for them to "borrow" those funds than to make the tough choices. I think it is time,long overdue in fact, to make those choices. It is all BS when they use SS to scare everyone and of course then they say that Veteran benefits are also at risk. Look at the actual figures of what a 100% disabled Vet makes and it doesn't come close to other Gov't handouts and those benefits aren't handouts but for service rendered above and beyond what the normal citizen contributes to the republic. Easy answers? No. Maybe the Colonel can put it in words we could understand without the doom and gloom of political BS.

        • 3 votes
        #9.1 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:35 AM EDT
        fmcarp

        Capt Al, thats the reason I find means testing for benefits interesting. That would give meaning to the phrase "safety net". These benefits should be like unemployment benefits, you only receive them if you need them. the fact does remain though that the increase in the expenses of these social benefits should have been easy to predict, and noone took the job serious enough.

        • 1 vote
        #9.2 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:12 PM EDT
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        seastar

        It's nice to see such a balanced perspective from a military retiree when so many people either want or expect most military personnel to be knee-jerk right-wing conservatives.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#10 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:27 AM EDT
        Capt Al

        that's what you get from a Patriot

        • 3 votes
        #10.1 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT
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        Neron Kesar

        Two points immediately come to mind:

        1. How often is this debt limit issue going to arise? If settled now, is it to be revisited ever couple of months leading up to the next election?

        So the question has to do with short-term versus long-term fixes.

        2. Whatever happened to the recommendations of President Obama's Debt Commission?

        • 1 vote
        Reply#11 - Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:19 PM EDT
        MLCook

        Jack, you and other people who made most of their fortunes years ago but now say taxes need to be increased are playing with matches in a closet full of open buckets of gasoline.

        Bumping up the highest tax bracket to 39.6% isn't that big a deal to you or the Obamas or the Clintons or the Oprahs or the Clooneys of the world because you already have your wealth converted into forms where it can just seep out and support you without being taxed as new income. Tax raisers today are happily ready to saw off the ladder of success so that others can't climb it.

        Unfortunately for many of us, we are not up that old ladder yet. We are climbing as fast as we can but we have not made it. An extra 5% tax handicap really hurts us but it does not hurt you all that much. Yes, we will be sore as hell about the ladder being sawed off and I guarantee a stunted ladder is going to be broken up altogether and the pieces thrown at the comfortable "old rich" so they won't be so comfortable anymore.

        Not only are there a whole lot of people who look at things the way I do, nearly all of us truly believe that these new taxes are not going to do one damn thing to help the jobless rate and and the economic crisis in this country. All it does is siphon money out of our private investments so that the Democrats can fuel up their huge welfare-state-mobile for one last lap before the nation collapses. (I mean completely collapses, as in ruined and destroyed.)

        At best, a stimulus czar will take a reduced portion of our private capital and sprinkle it on some favored Democrat interest or constituency, but no real jobs will be created, which is a crying shame because I am an entrepreneur and I would have created some jobs.

        I don't mind at all if some big corporation tax loopholes are closed. I don't mind at all if every one of the Big Rich folks in America is confiscatorially taxed so that their estates shrink to no more than $50 million.

        What I want is to grow my net worth up to $50 million. Believe me, I have lived long enough to know when I am being set up as the fall guy who will pay for everything in a deal and get nothing. I have also been to enough rodeos to know exactly who is setting up this coup and why.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#12 - Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:28 AM EDT
        Capt Al

        Hey ML, got that same feeling in my spine when the S*** is going to hit the fan and spray on us

          #12.1 - Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
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          Neron Kesar

          The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (also called Bowles-Simpson) was created in 2010 by President Obama to develop a bi-partisan plan for long-term fiscal responsibility.

          The Commission released its report on December 1, 2010 but failed a supermajority vote needed to endorse it as a formal blueprint for fiscal reform. The Commission recommended five steps:

          The first step was a $200 billion reduction in discretionary spending with proposed cuts including reducing defense procurement by 15% and closing one third of overseas bases, eliminating earmarks, and cutting the federal work force by 10%. The second step was $100 billion in increased tax revenues through various tax reform proposals, such as introducing a 15 cent per gallon gasoline tax and eliminating or restricting a variety of tax deductions such as the home mortgage interest deduction and the deduction for employer-provided healthcare benefits. The third step was controlling health care costs by maintaining the Medicare cost controls associated with the recent health care reform legislation, in addition to considering a public option and a further increase in the authority of Independent Payment Advisory Board. The fourth step was a reduction in entitlements, including farm subsidies, civilian and military federal pensions and student loan subsidies. Finally, the fifth step was modifications to the Social Security program to raise the payroll tax and to increase the retirement age. The co-chairs also recommended some measures they felt would stimulate economic growth, such as a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35% to a more internationally competitive 26%.

          --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Fiscal_Responsibility_and_Reform

          What is wrong with using this plan as a good-faith basis for moving forward and treating the debt ceiling independently, without conditions further than substantial adoption of Bowles-Simpson?

          • 3 votes
          Reply#13 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:55 PM EDT
          Col. Jack Jacobs

          Neron: when the game is perceived to be ideology or political advantage, logic loses.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#14 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:07 AM EDT
          Neron Kesar

          A healthy economy is like a healthy body. Money, like blood, should flow through the system, unobstructed.

          Accumulations of capital are like blood clots.

          The next phase of reform must include incentives and if necessary penalties to encourage the flow of capital through the system.

          The alternative is an economy crippled by a stroke.

          • 2 votes
          #14.1 - Mon Aug 1, 2011 9:20 PM EDT
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          Drew-1499978

          Sir:

          I believe at heart is the issue is that we have chosen the path to mediocrity and to avoid the taking of risk. Instead of shooting for the stars, we have freely given up a sizeable portion of our rights to have someone else make the decisions for us. We have become addicted to this exchange of uncertainity and the freedom to fail to social safety nets that generate a mediocrity of spirit and challenge. No longer to award a single trophy to a winner, but everyone gets one for trying. Instead of one honor graduate for a high school we have ten, twenty or thirty. Instead of demanding the excellence in ourselves, we have become satisified with the status quo. And now society has become addicted to our overall decline.

          A politician sensing the power lies in providing his "addicts" with all of the "free" things in life, continually provides us the heroin of mediocrity in exchange for our votes every other November. Today we have a nation of junkies waiting for their next fix from the public trough.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#15 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:09 AM EDT
          Col. Jack Jacobs

          It does often seem that we are governed by Gresham's Law: the bad drives out the good. The result is a reversion to the mean, to mediocrity, and it is not just frustrating, inefficient and unfair. It can also be a society's fatal flaw.

          • 3 votes
          #15.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:47 AM EDT
          Capt Al

          Sir, I wonder if our "leaders" know what is at risk here. Our great country is at peril due to their posturing. True men of honor who are chosen to lead would put the welfare of the republic and it's citizens first, but I feel the inability to lead wisely starts straight at the top and flows down to most of the elected officials. In all these discussions, I have not heard from any side what is good for the PEOPLE, only ideological rhetoric and doom and gloom if one side or the other doesn't "win".

          • 2 votes
          #15.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:48 PM EDT
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          Col. Jack Jacobs

          History is littered with the remains of societies whose leaders believed strongly that what they were doing was to the benefit of their people. Omnia vanitas.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#16 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:19 PM EDT
          Bob Nelson.

          The budget needs to be slashed, revenues need to be increased, and the debt ceiling needs to be raised.

          Yes.

          But not in that order, and not in precipitate haste.

          1) Raise the debt-ceiling. Better yet, abolish it!

          2a) Reduce spending:
          * End the wars, define military requirements for the next thirty years, recalibrate personnel and procurement (smaller and more mobile military; advanced light arms and no heavy arms -- mothball the F-35s and other such idiocies)
          * End the war on drugs and the DEA
          * ...

          2b) Prime the economic pump: Take out long-term debt another trillion dollars to invest in infrastructures -- at today's interest rates, it is stupid NOT to borrow!

          2c) Ease the debt burden: Refinance existing debt over a longer period. At today's interest rates, it is stupid NOT to borrow!

          2d) Simplify the tax code: a single progressive scale, for all revenue without any exceptions. Full stop. Inheritance is revenue, of course...

          Stop being crazy about debt. Debt itself is innocuous. Everybody borrows to buy a house or a car. Debt payments are a problem, if they are too great a part of the operating budget.

          Oh and... remind everyone -- just in case they haven't heard , through the ambient cacophony -- that with interest rates where they are today, it would be stupid NOT to borrow...

          :-(((((

          • 2 votes
          Reply#17 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:00 AM EDT
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